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2005-05-12 [Estantia]: maybe i should enter little estantia... is it just one character?
2005-05-12 [Savien]: No Elandain quite a few more images will fit. Small ones like this, the page should hold up to 40 images, so I'm told. ;)
2005-05-12 [itchykoo]: there are alot of good ones
2005-05-13 [Konobi]: O.O! My originality is corrupted... *shrugs..* Oh well, good job Estania! ^.^
2005-05-13 [Konobi]: Uh oh.. Fire Fae joined the competition.. Good luck Fae!
2005-05-13 [Elandain]: Yeah, isn't she great? :D
2005-05-13 [Konobi]: She is. I know I'm not going to win... I guess I came to show my originality.. and slight promotions for my comic. But.. I get a badge for doing this, right? The participation badge? I've been in Elftown for a year and haven't participated in anything.. this is my new way of doing stuff ^^;;
2005-05-13 [Fire fae]: Thank you for organizing my posts whoever did it. ^_^
2005-05-13 [Konobi]: Fae! It's been too long, how's it going?
2005-05-13 [Fire fae]: It's going well but I don't think this is the right place to catch up on the chat.
2005-05-13 [Konobi]: Yes.. you're right. I hope to see you on msn one of these days. Good luck, I'm trying to beat you still! Hehe...
2005-05-13 [Estantia]: same here...
2005-05-13 [Konobi]: This is a costume contest.. but I'm beginning to see a lot of simply character sketches...
2005-05-13 [Lerune]: I agree -- 18 is questionable to me.
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: So
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: So's 19 (sorry Fae...) 23, 24, 25, 26...
2005-05-14 [ally]: *disagrees with [Konobi] on 19, 24 and 26* you can see that they 've put a lot of work in designing those dresses and 26's face is even partly hidden by the hat.
2005-05-14 [spiritee]: i agree that my 25 is crap and it'll be replaced, but hey, 24 was a lot of pain to design and draw. fyi, the other entries you mentioned obviously has design elements in them, and 19, especially, has beautiful details.
2005-05-14 [Elandain]: Personally, I like 24 better than 25, but why are you guys doing this? I think instead of pointing fingers, you should be complimenting people for their hard work.
2005-05-14 [Duredhel]: Yeah, I like 24 better than 25 as well.
2005-05-14 [Lerune]: I am not pointing fingers, thank you. I was merely stating that some of these might be questionable as far as theme goes. No one said the work was BAD, only that they might not fit the purpose of the contest.
2005-05-14 [Elandain]: Yes, but I don't mean you in particular. But mister Konobi seems pretty content to label almost *everyone* as questionable..
2005-05-14 [Lerune]: Ah, I see. =o) I think they all look fine, but the one I mentioned even describes the entry as a character sketch, so that was why I mentioned it. =o)
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: Hey.. all the drawings are great. But.. this is a costume contest, not a "my roleplaying character sketch" contest...
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: Quit ganging up on me anyway. I'm only stating my opinion, you don't have to be rude about it... *glances to Elandain's direction..*
2005-05-14 [Elandain]: RPG's (Role Playing Games) happen to be games also. And they are wearing costumes. What's wrong with that? I think it's rather rude to try to throw everyone else's entries into question.
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: Well yes.. Roleplaying is a game, but some of them just seem.. showing off their art instead of showing off cosutme designs...
2005-05-14 [Elandain]: Quit nitpicking. That's not your job.
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: I am not nipicking. I'm only voicing my opinion. Alright? Eesh.. some people take to heart criticism..
2005-05-14 [Lerune]: Savien? Sunny? I think the dispute is best settled by the ones running the contest, no? =o)
2005-05-14 [Elisha Kelly]: Have you guys read the rules???? It states games including'cost
2005-05-14 [Fire fae]: *laughs* I don't wan't to sound arrogant but the drawings I put up are far from being"sketches
2005-05-14 [Fire fae]: "some of them just seem.. showing off their art instead of showing off cosutme designs..." this from someone who admited that his entery was a way to advertise his comic strips.
2005-05-14 [spiritee]: Ah.. mixed up my numbers. Anyways, Konobi, we're just voicing our opinions, too.
2005-05-14 [Savien]: I'll belatedly step in here, and say opinions are always welcome, but by the same token I won't tolerate anyone running anyone else's work into the ground. I'm not saying anyone has done this yet. RPG characters fit the theme perfectly, so are allowed. I'm seeing a lot of original costume art. Anyway, opinions are welcome, unless you are trashing someone else's hard work. Fighting won't be tolerated either. Don't flame this page defending yourself if you feel innocent, just don't do it. Ok? Let's be grown up, and have fun! Thanks ;)
2005-05-14 [Savien]: Oh, and # 12 and # 28 are bad links. Get these fixed please, or they'll be removed.
2005-05-14 [Fire fae]: I know and I'm sorry [Savien], just have this nasty habit of speaking my mind. ><
2005-05-14 [Savien]: It's over. And it's ok. Let's just have fun! :)
2005-05-14 [Fire fae]: ^_^ will do. Thanks.
2005-05-14 [Konobi]: I speak my mind too.. and I'm not running anyone's art into the ground. They are all beautiful peices of art...
2005-05-14 [Lerune]: I removed mine. I am not being a brat, I just don't know for sure if I completely fit the theme and I have only ever entered one other art contest, so I am still a but shy about my work...there is just too much argument here, so I'd feel better just pulling mine. I hope everyone understands - I am not trying to offend anyone. =o) I renumbered the entries and neatened it up a bit. Good luck, everyone. =o)
2005-05-15 [Elisha Kelly]: actually it is now #11 and #27 that are t he bad links, hee hee.
2005-05-15 [spiritee]: 27 works~
2005-05-15 [dilandau]: not for me it doesnt
2005-05-15 [spiritee]: oo it's directed from DA, why does it work for me? weird.
2005-05-15 [dendrite.]: gahhh stupid link >_<
2005-05-15 [dendrite.]: is that better? ^_^
2005-05-15 [dendrite.]: very awesome predator
2005-05-15 [Erestor]: Sorry everyone my links gone dodgey, I will replace it as soon as possible.
2005-05-15 [Anomynous]: aww...shucks, thanks!
2005-05-15 [dendrite.]: ^_^
2005-05-16 [Elisha Kelly]: ooh looky looky 27 is working now... (^_^) hee hee
2005-05-16 [dendrite.]: ahaha yeah I had to save it and upload it to my photobucket ^^
2005-05-16 [spiritee]: mm? you could've use the link from your house..
2005-05-16 [Ceres_de_Rehka]: oh my goodness, there's so many pretty costumes *_*
2005-05-16 [dendrite.]: :p yes their are
2005-05-16 [Ishje]: i have just enterd my painting but i think he is to big...i dont know how i can make it smaller, is there anybody who can help me?
2005-05-16 [Sunny Silverunicorn]: don't worry, I'll make it smaller for you :)
2005-05-16 [Ishje]: thank you verry much :D
2005-05-16 [eleihna]: I really like number 8 and number 18!!!
2005-05-16 [Ishje]: i just have seen there is another painting with the name jinn...i will chance the name of my painting...
2005-05-16 [eleihna]: by the way when is the deadline?
2005-05-16 [Sunny Silverunicorn]: June 30th!
2005-05-16 [Konobi]: I'm gonna lose!!....i think.
2005-05-16 [Amemone]: number 13 is pretty
2005-05-16 [Cassave]: Number 13 is very nice...
2005-05-17 [Elisha Kelly]: I never thought I could win with so many lovely costumes, *sigh* I lurve no. 8 also, it is just so kool!
2005-05-17 [dendrite.]: I think im gonna airbrush my dude or draw a new one and submit it :p
2005-05-17 [~-+.My Brain Melted.+-~]: Ahh...One of these is taken directly from a drawing book, costume AND character. [dendrite.]'s drawing is directly from a 'how to draw manga' book. I don't think it should count...
2005-05-17 [dendrite.]: the character is totally different
2005-05-17 [dendrite.]: if it becomes a bother then I'll submit my other one
2005-05-17 [Elisha Kelly]: I don't think it matters were the character is from if it is stated that the character is from wherever it is from... I thought it was just the costume designs that mattered?? but I suppose you would have to ask to verify though...
2005-05-17 [dendrite.]: thank you [Elisha Kelly] besides i have a version 2 of it anyway
2005-05-17 [Savien]: Ok people last time I'm saying it. This is a themed contest! The theme is costumes designed for a game. We're not interested in the character, only the costume, and the game it was made for. If your image did not have a game linked to it, it will be removed. And no [dendrite.] it's not ok, it does matter where the character comes from, and we want YOU to design the costume, not copy it from a How to Draw Manga book.
2005-05-17 [Savien]: Images that do not fit the theme: 11, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 33, and 34. These images will be removed today. If they are part of a game feel free to re post it with an explanation of the game the costume design is for. If you don't, I'll just have to remove it again. Sorry for the inconvenience, but it's not fair to the ones who DO read the rules, and follow the theme. Thank you....the management.
2005-05-17 [Savien]: Images that do not fit the theme removed.
2005-05-17 [Savien]: [dilandau] your link is dead since elfwood is down. You might want to just upload the image to the contest, rather than inlining it.
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: Phew... I thought mine would be removed.. ^^;
2005-05-17 [eleihna]: mine did fit the theme!!! Why was it removed?
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: *sighs..* I will help with that one. "If they are part of a game feel free to re post it with an explanation of the game the costume design is for."
2005-05-17 [Savien]: Thanks Konobi. Right. I can make mistakes, and if I did i'm sorry. Re-post it CLEARLY stating what game the costume is for. Sorry for any mistakes again.
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: Yeah, no problem. I knew I was right on SOME of the drawings on here that did not fit the theme.. Sorry if I offended anyone else. It's not like my pixil art is incredibly 'leet' or anything of the sort ^^;
2005-05-17 [Savien]: It looks like video game art, but you might want to state it clearer. The reference is a tad vague.
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: That better?
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: Or.. does it have to be an rpg? If so I'll just remove mine.
2005-05-17 [Savien]: Much, thanks. :)
2005-05-17 [Savien]: No, video games, RPG's LARP's card games like Yu Gi Oh....any sort of actual game at all.
2005-05-17 [Estantia]: the problem is mine's used in rather a lot of games, so do i have to list them all? or just some?
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: Alright. Do you think I even stand a chance against the hand drawn art Savian?
2005-05-17 [Savien]: Sure. Entries are judged on several criteria, not just technical merit. Everyone stands a chance. :)
2005-05-17 [Konobi]: Alright. I MAY post another art... but don't expect anything technically hand drawn from me. I'm no good with costumes when it comes to hand-rawn art...
2005-05-17 [Estantia]: i could post the link to the main site for the games if you want.
2005-05-17 [Anomynous]: OK, well, just in case any of you have doubts...my first entry (currently, no.19) is an armour designed for a D&D (Dungeaons and Dragons) role play game, unfortunetly I don't have an actual character to wear it...the second one (no.20) is the armor of my character, Durran Steel, who is part of a D&D campaign
2005-05-17 [Anomynous]: And, since Elftown's been having problems I changed the links to my drawings (they're still the same files, only uploaded elsewhere)
2005-05-17 [Ceres_de_Rehka]: I just took down my entry because I can't remember what game I created mine for. I have a feeling it was some weird RPG, but I don't remember, so it went buh-bye. I might enter something else later though.
2005-05-17 [Yuriona]: There... just cleaned up the wiki a bit. Please number each entry separately and include the <*hr*> between each.
2005-05-18 [Savien]: Sorry Estantia I missed your question earlier. Just one game is fine. A link is helpful, but not necessary yet.
2005-05-18 [eleihna]: I hope you will accept my picture now...
2005-05-18 [Duredhel]: still not a game costume :S
2005-05-18 [eleihna]: thank you [Lerune] well its a costume contest right and its fantasy, so I can use as a game costume..I hope I undestood the rules right, its difficult with the english and every thing..sorry :(
2005-05-18 [Yuriona]: Yes but the theme states that it must be inspired by a game and not just some pretty design you like.
2005-05-18 [eleihna]: ok Im really sorry to be so slow... =P
2005-05-18 [Lerune]: How do you figure it isn't a game costume? I role-play, and I have a book on my bookshelf for rolling up fairies and pixies as playable characters.
2005-05-18 [Anomynous]: pixies and fairies usually count as NPCs (but they're still from a game that way, right?)
2005-05-18 [Lerune]: Yes, they normally count as NPS's but I do have a campaign addition here that allows them to be brought into gameplay, which rocks. ;o) Either way, they are game characters, I know we have encountered pixies, sprites and fairies in our adventures. And the costume has a lot of thought and detail, so I don't agree with [Duredhel] that it isn't a game costume. I already mentioned the entries I have issues with. :/
2005-05-18 [Duredhel]: uhh... I think the rules of the contest say that the drawing has to be inspired by or designed for a particular game, which means you play the game, and then you design a costume based on it, as opposed to designing the costume and then thinking what game it could fit into
2005-05-18 [Anomynous]: And I'll second that! You know...it kind of looks like that Nymph from Shadows of Undrentide, doesn't it?
2005-05-18 [Yuriona]: And I'll third it. Even so, this will be up to [Savien] or [Sunny Silverunicorn] to decide since they are the contest administrators
2005-05-18 [Anomynous]: Yes, but the administrators sometimes need a little help in making a decission (and I'll stop spamming now)
2005-05-18 [Yuriona]: Yes, I got such help with the ET Photograph Competition... -_-'
2005-05-18 [Sunny Silverunicorn]: eleihna, your pic could surely fit into any fantasy game, but the purpose of the contest is more like if you have actually designed the pic, and costume for a game. I agree with Dûredhel. It's not that we don't like to see all beautiful and detailed costume designs, but we set the "inspired by/designed for a game" rule as to have an specification for what costumes can actually be entered. Maybe later we can have other genres of the same designing contest, but this one, is dedicated to your inspirations and designs for a game character you have actually had experience playing with.
2005-05-18 [Ceres_de_Rehka]: erg... I tried to make mine as 28, but now it doesn't show up... After I go to edit the page, it says it's there and when I go back, it is. But if I go to this page via the main street, it's not... I'm confused. @.@
2005-05-18 [Lerune]: Costumes adapted from, or designed for your favorite game, be it, a role-playing game, a video game, or any other sort of game... Nothing was mentioned about pre-played characters. If this is the case, the rules need to be clearer then. But don't mind me, I am taking this contest off watch. I obviously don't agree with everyone's interpretation of the rules, so I am of no help at all.
2005-05-19 [Ceres_de_Rehka]: nevermind, it works now ^_^
2005-05-19 [dilandau]: ok i fixed my pic a bit. its no longer a link from elfwood since elfwood has been wonky. and i tried to clean it up a bit. also its a bigger pic when u click on the thumbnail. :) i might try to color it if i have time.
2005-05-19 [eleihna]: Ok, thank you everyone for explaining and stuff now if you, Savien and Sunny silverunicorn decides to take it away again do so, I just sorry if i caused any trubble! I really really like these drawing competions and I hope that you have lots more to come! :D
2005-05-21 [Kuruni]: there, hope you all like it. :D
2005-05-21 [dilandau]: thanks fabi, now i know im not going to win ;)
2005-05-21 [Kuruni]: you are mean!! i really like yours a lot.
2005-05-21 [Konobi]: Oh hush you two. I'm the artist of the pixil art, who's to say I won't come in dead-last? ^_~
2005-05-21 [Elisha Kelly]: now I am insanely jealous!!!! i will have to colour my pics if I get time... I like your pixel art Kinobi... it's kinda retro... and cool! {oL0}
2005-05-21 [dilandau]: saying u are going to beat me is mean? lol
2005-05-21 [Konobi]: Retro...? I suppose it is kinda.. but.. Drawings logically take a longer time, and people put more effort into it. While mine looks stylish.. I probably would pick a hand drawn picture. But hey.. it's not about winning.. it's about showing off your "leet" skillz XD
2005-05-21 [Ishje]: there are really beatiful costumes here... i like this contest
2005-05-22 [Elisha Kelly]: hee hee, I like all the coloured pieces... they make mine look *sigh* plain... but I guess that is the artists lot, to be forever drooling over other works
2005-05-23 [Ishje]: yea you are right...
2005-05-23 [elody]: lol. i suck at colouring... 9.9 i like it, but as soon as i start, it goes to hell instead. i PROMISE it looks better on the paper over here beside me irl though....... x.x
2005-05-23 [Konobi]: Wow Ma'am! That's really good! ^^
2005-05-23 [elody]: oh hi kono.. ^^ thank you
2005-05-23 [Elisha Kelly]: oh, I can't wait to get my greedy lil hands on some computer software to help with my art... now it is all done the old fashioned way, with either pencil paint... hee hee, they don't always scan well.
2005-05-23 [dilandau]: try GIMP its a free paint program :)
2005-05-24 [Nightfall]: >.> err I hope posting a detail is ok for one of my drawings. I knew the other (lady of fire) would be too large, but I figured if the lady of lightning one fit the size requirements, and its still the same piccy... it would be ok. let me know if I should do otherwise :)
2005-05-24 [dami]: whee I finally found enough courage to enter a competition.. Hope my pic isn't too scetchy or something..:D
2005-05-24 [Cassave]: Erhm, changed first entry with a char that actually went places in Arcanum...
2005-05-24 [Corax]: nice designs... i shall have to finish mine n enter...
2005-05-27 [Konobi]: Hehe.. All I see are regular drawings. Maybe I can win some type of sub-category for most original. After all, who makes Pixil art here? And who actually submits it. I'm not trying to diss the artists, they all deserve to win rather than me, but... you get my point. Good luck everyone, again! ^^;
2005-05-27 [LonelyTylenol]: Wow... A lot of these are really good...
2005-05-28 [Teufelsweib]: I just had to enter such a contest, I really like it
2005-05-29 [ceridwen]: Slavork, your work is always awesome. I rember the peice you entered in the Anoumity(sp?) Contest...Eh..
2005-05-29 [Teufelsweib]: thank you very much ^_^ and you should enter your work! the more the merrier!
2005-05-29 [kerry555]: Are mine any good?
2005-05-29 [ceridwen]: You shouldn't have to ask, but, yes, it's wonderful. Definately better than anything I can conjure up. I just need to find the right charrie, and the right costume. I need a special one. Yeah...
2005-05-30 [Asrun]: Eh, mine looks all poopy shrunk. :/ But rules are rules
2005-05-30 [Elandain]: Poopy skunk? More like... fantastic ferret.
2005-05-30 [Asrun]: I meant shrunk. XD
2005-05-30 [Elandain]: I know... just teasing. ;)
2005-05-30 [Kuruni]: wow! that is soooooooooo beautiful!!!
2005-05-30 [Asrun]: I have skunk on the brain.. My dog was sprayed last weekend and it still smells
2005-05-31 [dilandau]: wash him in tomato juice
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: We've done that.. And with coke, and with baking soda and hydrogen peroxide with dishsoap.. In total he's been washed at least 10times...
2005-05-31 [Duredhel]: I hear some Oatmeal on hot water does wonders with dog smells... though I dunno how effective it'll be in this case.
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: It's not dog smell.. ^^;; It's skunk. ._.;; Which is oil that likes to live in protein.. We're having a hell of a time. :/
2005-05-31 [Savien]: Ok folks, once again, we have a theme. you need to tell what game the costume is designed for. If not, it will be removed. Thanks ~ the management :/
2005-05-31 [Duredhel]: Shave him XD if the smell doesn't come off at least he'll look funny.
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: Eee! Sorry, forgot that Savien. Fixed now. ^^
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: He's a huskiexshepard
2005-05-31 [Duredhel]: you can shave anything :) you just have to try hard anough XD
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: o.o;;; All the other dogs will laugh at him!
2005-05-31 [Duredhel]: That's good :P he'll make a lot of friends ^^ people like funny people... dogs... thingies
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: This is fun, cause I want to get into Video Game Character design. ^________^
2005-05-31 [Duredhel]: heheh :P same here, uhh, actually I had a question for ye :), you drew [Leara]'s Lykia right? well she's in my request list, but i'm kind of stuck there (and can't move onto the other requests) cuz I can't seem to get a 'feel' for the char, dunno if i'm making any sense here, but whatever, what I'm trying to say is, any pointers you could give me?
2005-05-31 [Asrun]: I dunno.. I just drew her.. :I I don't know what else to tell you. *lol* ^.^;;;
2005-05-31 [Duredhel]: haha ^^ ok, i'll see what comes out then :P
2005-06-01 [dilandau]: y is it a password protected page now?
2005-06-01 [Asrun]: There's a second page now. This one is full. ^^
2005-06-01 [Savien]: Entries 45 and 46 need to say which game they are for.
2005-06-01 [Asrun]: *ish working on a new entry* This contest is awesome. ^.^
2005-06-01 [wendahloosa]: I am just amazed at some of these amazing entries! Great work everyone! *smiles*
2005-06-01 [Elandain]: I think I'll do a second one, also. Now that the deadline is extended. Perhaps a female character... :)
2005-06-01 [Kuruni]: good, a second entry! im off to work on anotherone!!
2005-06-07 [Jitter]: 17 is the best so far imho :D
2005-06-07 [Elandain]: Nope! Number 30... lol. ;)
2005-06-07 [Asrun]: They are all wonderful! ^______^
2005-06-07 [kerry555]: woo! that means mine are too!
2005-06-13 [shadows kinky kitty]: woa Im 2 scared now! I know that I'll lose now ; ; these are WAY 2 good
2005-06-30 [nokaredes]: What's the password?! I lost my power half an hour ago, I just got my computer restarted!! It can't be closed!!! T_T
2005-06-30 [Asrun]: You have to put them up on the second submissions page. ;)
2005-06-30 [nokaredes]: ...second...ri
2005-06-30 [Asrun]: Hehe! Well, it closes tomorrow. My tablet died, so I didn't get to submit a second one... But I have an idea of what to submit now.
2005-06-30 [nokaredes]: I don't even have a tablet, I did mine in pen. New medium for me, very streaky, but at least I got it in on the last day! (BTW, on ET time, it's the 30th right now...)
2005-06-30 [Asrun]: AHCK! Better get the entry in then. :P Well, I don't have one now, but I like colouring my work.. Maybe I'll play around with my new markers
2005-06-30 [nokaredes]: I did! (whew!)
2005-06-30 [Anomynous]: Not that I'm keen on finding out I lost, but...when will the winners be announced?
2005-06-30 [Charybdis]: As I recall, the last one took around a couple of weeks or so. There are less images this time, though, so maybe it'll be a shorter wait *shrugs*
2005-06-30 [Asrun]: I thought there would be A LOT of entries for this one.. It was so much fun. :(
2005-06-30 [Charybdis]: I would have entered for sure, only I'm no good at fanart and I don't have an RPG character per se ^^; Perhaps there'll be a non-game costume design contest sometime ^^;
2005-06-30 [Asrun]: This isn't fanart. :) You can make a totally original character that could fit into a game.
2005-07-01 [Konobi]: It seems the deadline is here. Oh... I can't wait to see the winners!
2005-07-01 [Charybdis]: Gak! I read the instructions the wrong way, then... nooooo!!!! I interpreted it as redesigning costumes for existing game/ RPG characters ;_; *bangs head against wall repeatedly*
2005-07-03 [Savien]: It could be either way. Create a character, in costume, or use an existing one. Sorry for the confusion.
2005-07-03 [Charybdis]: Oh well ^^ Next time, I suppose.
2005-07-19 [Savien]: Ok people read the news on MainStreet. The winners have been chosen, but we've worked up a little surprise to go along with this one.
2005-07-19 [nokaredes]: *has voted* Gee, you sure can make me feel like my vote counts...
2009-03-30 [Artsieladie]: I uploaded these to Elftown for the following members' entries. Since I used the 'uploading at the comment box' feature, I included the "ETmembernr" in the image title when I saved it, because member numbers don't change.
- [farawaygone]:
http://elftown
- [Anomynous]:
http://elftown
http://elftown
- [SeishinOkami]:
http://elftown
- [Kuruni]:
http://elftown
- [Nightfall]:
http://elftown
http://elftown
http://elftown
- [dami]:
http://elftown
- [Cat0132]:
http://elftown
http://elftown
I was just glad that I was still able to retrieve them to upload them to ET. :)
2009-03-30 [Artsieladie]: But I can't get #15 [Konobi]'s to work even though I tried a few possibilities, because it still has the ol' "lysator.liu.s
http://elftown
2009-03-30 [Artsieladie]: Thanks, [Hedda]! :)
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